Top 10s I'd like to hear

[BydoEmpire73]

Just for fun, here's a few top 10s I think would be entertaining:

Top 10 Horror-Themed Games (maybe for October/Halloween)
Top 10 Gun Games
Top 10 Games That Were Ahead Of Their Time

[SubaruBrat]

Damn, good ideas! I think those are great. I like the games ahead of their time best.

[BydoEmpire73]

Damn, good ideas! I think those are great. I like the games ahead of their time best.As long as "Treasure of Tarmin" is in the list I'll be happy. If it isn't, heads are going to roll. :P

[GameGavel]

I like this one too. Let's think about doing this top-10 for Sept.

[teknohed]

Top Ten FMV games
Top Ten Co-Op Games
Top Ten Blatant Rip Offs (KC Munchin, etc)
Top Ten Vector Games

[miner2049er]

This thread is a great idea in itself.

Keep the suggestions coming, and if we use one of yours then we might ask you for your own top 4 as well as discussing Flare's.

[alyinsanfran]

Top 10 'Holy Crap!' games (games that had that effect on you when you first saw them back in the day). Like Zaxxon or Star Wars.

[SubaruBrat]

Putting that one in the works now too.

Just to tear down a wall here on how the show works. We start discussing a topic like this, add to it and do it when we have all put in out 2 cents. At any time there might be a dozen such lists in the works. If we say "cool idea" and you don't hear it the next show that doesn't mean we are not loving it, there might just be 3 more that have been on the table for months.

[BydoEmpire73]

Top 10 Pinball Backglasses

I love the spiderweb spinner in Scared Stiff - so cool.

[Mmmbacon]

How about Top Ten Console Innovations:

Stuff that changed the landscape of the console

Third parties making games for systems (activision), Modules that allowed you to play other systems carts on your system (Exapansion Module 1 for colecovision that allowed you to play VCS carts on the colecovision), the Supercharger for the VCS, Voice module for Intellivsion etc etc.

I also really like the suggestion for the Top 10 Horror Games for halloween.

[miner2049er]

How about Top Ten Console Innovations:

Added to the list.


I also really like the suggestion for the Top 10 Horror Games for halloween.

Watch this space.

Well, not THIS one, but you know what I mean. ;)

[Mmmbacon]

Watch this space.

Ok, now im sufficiently intrigued!

[Chris]

I would love to see a Top 10 "Home Console Controllers". Where would the Atari 2600 joystick fall? The Wii remote? The SNES controller?

[GameGavel]

I would love to see a Top 10 "Home Console Controllers". Where would the Atari 2600 joystick fall? The Wii remote? The SNES controller?

Great idea. We will def do this one.

[Mmmbacon]

I would love to see a Top 10 "Home Console Controllers". Where would the Atari 2600 joystick fall?

Great call Chris. This will surely spark up some spirited debate. I remember taking the original NES controller in my hand and IMMEDIATELY thinking "WTF is this thing, this will NEVER work". Yet another failed Nostradamus-like technology prediction for my portfolio

[SubaruBrat]

Same here, I took a look at it and thought it was terrible. I was a little bit wrong on that one. But what was funny how instantly dated it was when the Genesis came out.

[saberman]

I would love to see a Top 10 "Home Console Controllers". Where would the Atari 2600 joystick fall? The Wii remote? The SNES controller?

Am I the only person who liked the N64 controller?

I’d like to see a top 10 of game genres. There are loads of top ten lists of; fighting games, shoot ‘em ups, platform games, sports games, RTS, etc… But which one is the best genre? I’m hoping it is so subjective and arbitrary the debate will make for some great listening :mspac:.

[miner2049er]

We discuss the N64 controller briefly in our upcoming News segment and will discuss controllers further at some point in a Top ten, also I like the genre Top Ten idea.

[RedWolfJC]

How about just a basic top 10 gaming systems? Anything that can play a game from Magnavox Odyssey to Playstation 3? Doesn't have to be limited to console systems either you could throw in "Computers" like the c-64, Apple II, atari 400/800 whatever...

[Chris]

How about top 10 peripherals? Where would ROB the Robot fall? The Sega Master System 3D glasses? Or the Gameboy Camera?

[bill_loguidice]

Same here, I took a look at it and thought it was terrible. I was a little bit wrong on that one. But what was funny how instantly dated it was when the Genesis came out.

Yeah, it took me quite some time to adapt to gamepads. I also struggled with the whole joystick/gamepad on the left rather than the right thing (which as I understand it was always a Japanese preference). Naturally, as with everyone else, I can freely go back and forth between everything now.

[BydoEmpire73]

Top 10 Arcade to Console Conversions
Top 10 Game Ads ("George Plimpton" vs. "Genesis Does What Nintendon't")

I'd like to see a Top 10 Controllers as well, for a couple reasons. 1) Oonga Boonga will probably be in there. 2) We might just go a month without Family Guy, Xenon, or Ice Cold Beer being mentioned. ;-)

[GameGavel]

Top 10 Arcade to Console Conversions
Top 10 Game Ads ("George Plimpton" vs. "Genesis Does What Nintendon't")

I'd like to see a Top 10 Controllers as well, for a couple reasons. 1) Oonga Boonga will probably be in there. 2) We might just go a month without Family Guy, Xenon, or Ice Cold Beer being mentioned. ;-)

All good ones. Top-10 controllers will be coming soon. Love that one!

[SubaruBrat]

Oonga Boonga The official game of Retro Gaming Roundup

[miner2049er]

Top 10 Arcade to Console Conversions

That was actually our very first Top Ten Debate.

Link (http://www.retrogamingroundup.com/shownotes/2009/roundup001_2009.02.htm)

Call yourself a fan? Sheesh! LOL.

[GameGavel]

That was actually our very first Top Ten Debate.

Link (http://www.retrogamingroundup.com/shownotes/2009/roundup001_2009.02.htm)

Call yourself a fan? Sheesh! LOL.

LOL. How soon I forget too :)

[BydoEmpire73]

LOL. How soon I forget too :)Hah, I can't believe I forgot. Well, to be fair I started to type up "Top 10 Light Gun Games" and I realized I had already suggested that at the start of the thread. Apparently my memory is not what it used to be... :)

[Mmmbacon]

Ooonga Boonga - The official game of Retro Gaming Roundup

The wife was in here at her desk on her laptop and read over my shoulder "What's Oonga Boonga? I haven't heard of that game"

Dear LORD, I have no idea where to begin with THAT answer....

[Jerky]

That was actually our very first Top Ten Debate.

Link (http://www.retrogamingroundup.com/shownotes/2009/roundup001_2009.02.htm)

Call yourself a fan? Sheesh! LOL.

UK Mike--RGR host, and Historical Archivist. ;)

[BydoEmpire73]

The Holy Crap thread got me thinking:

Top Ten Years For Arcade Games

I was thinking about the late 80s games I loved, and so many of them were '87: Afterburner, Xenophobe, Xybots, Shinobit, Sky Wolf. That's a great year.

[SubaruBrat]

They do tend to cluster, I have many games from 1982 for some reason.

[miner2049er]

I have a few Arcade Ambience tracks that play on my MAME frontend but the one I always use is 1981.

By sound alone that was a great year.

I would have to look at a list of games to pick a year though, just too much good stuff.

[Jerky]

I have an idea, but it still needs to be fleshed out.

Top 10 Classic Videogame Films/TV shows/Publications.

or

Top 10 worst Classic Videogame Films/TV shows/Publications.

I don't think that you could do each form of media alone because most of them were crap. So, if you guys wanted to do "Top 10 videogame films" alone, maybe a "worst of" list would be better.

[Foo]

how about the top ten toughest games

the only game i was able to complete on one credit back in the day was gryzor or maybe u call it contra with a lot of practice.

[Flare]

how about the top ten toughest games

the only game i was able to complete on one credit back in the day was gryzor or maybe u call it contra with a lot of practice.
The Sega Genesis might dominate that list. Some of the most difficult games came out of that console.

Gaiares, Hellfire, Kid Chameleon to name a few.

[saberman]

how about the top ten toughest games

the only game i was able to complete on one credit back in the day was gryzor or maybe u call it contra with a lot of practice.

As we all heard in UK Mike’s review last month JSW was impossible so that would have to be number 1.

[BydoEmpire73]

As we all heard in UK Mike’s review last month JSW was impossible so that would have to be number 1.Impossible Mission on the 7800 was also impossible due to a bug that made one of the puzzle pieces unreachable. Tie?

[saberman]

Impossible Mission on the 7800 was also impossible due to a bug that made one of the puzzle pieces unreachable. Tie?

Touché :). I think we might end up with a top 10 impossible games. My vote would be for JSW to be number 1 :).

[stturner]

I like one of the earlier suggestions for top 10 video game to Movies, but you would have an easier time doing a top 5 and a bottom 5. Each host could pick 2 top and 2 bottom movies made from video games.

My 2nd suggestion is top ten video game characters.

[BydoEmpire73]

Similar to the "top 10 horror games," how about top tens in a given theme. Specifically I'd like to hear the "Top 10 Fantasy" games (meaning high fantasy: D&D Gold box titles, Gauntlet, Thunder Castle, Wizardry, Sword of Sodan, Conan, etc).

Just don't like UK Mike push for a "top 10 sim racing games" - I'll fall asleep... :)

[GameGavel]

Similar to the "top 10 horror games," how about top tens in a given theme. Specifically I'd like to hear the "Top 10 Fantasy" games (meaning high fantasy: D&D Gold box titles, Gauntlet, Thunder Castle, Wizardry, Sword of Sodan, Conan, etc).

Just don't like UK Mike push for a "top 10 sim racing games" - I'll fall asleep... :)

I like top-10 Fantasy Games, alot.

[leathco]

Coulda sworn I posted here already...anyhow here;s my ideas

Top ten gaming mascots: There's more than Sonic and Mario! To be honest, I always thought those two were over rated. My fave is Mega Man, with Samus Aran being a close second.

Top ten "new" retro consoles: New clones for our carts! I like the FC3+, but the controller has some design issues with the button layout. Yobo makes a ton of these clone systems, but there's others out there too, like the new Sega one with 20 built in games, a cart slot, and portable to boot!

Top ten games that "suck": Games that everyone says suck, but there's actually a fair bit of entertainment to be had from them.

Top ten controller innovations: What innovations in controller tech were the best? The D-Pad? Analog buttons? Analog sticks? Curves that go along with your hand? Rumble? Shoulder Buttons? Wireless? even the 4 port hubs?

[BydoEmpire73]

Top ten "new" retro consoles: New clones for our carts! I like the FC3+, but the controller has some design issues with the button layout. Yobo makes a ton of these clone systems, but there's others out there too, like the new Sega one with 20 built in games, a cart slot, and portable to boot!That would be a great segment whether it's a top 10 or not - I'm always interested those units, but so many are really shoddy it's hard to tell what's worthwhile and what isn't.


I like top-10 Fantasy Games, alot.Make it happen SoCal!!!

[BydoEmpire73]

Top Ten Compilations/Anthologies

[Gordon Bennett]

As long as "Treasure of Tarmin" is in the list I'll be happy. If it isn't, heads are going to roll. :P

Treasures of Tarmin and Utopia. They were incredibly far ahead of their time.


As for my suggestions:

Top Ten games based on a licence - It's bound to be a challenge to find them, but there have been a few good ones. Maybe not ten.

Top Ten Full Motion Video gam- oh, never mind. I actually quite enjoy FMV based games, but then I have very strange taste.

Top Ten Free, legal games - This is bound to have a strong bias to computer games. Ten games that were released originally as public domain or have been released into the public domain by the copyright holders.

Top Ten "Player 2" characters. We all know the main character from the game, but what about the one added for the second player? Many games put a new coat of paint on the Player 1 sprite and call it a day, but what about the ones with a character of their own? Surely I can't be the only one who would rather play as Luigi or Tails.

[Funspot72]

Since there are more than 40 posts in this thread some of these ideas may have already been mentioned before, but that just means they are good ideas for top 10's. ;-) Here are a few ideas I have for top 10 lists:

1) Top 10 Funniest Games (ie Earthworm Jim, Monkey Island series, The Neverhood, etc)

2) Top 10 Worst Games (ie ET, Superman 64, Total Recall (NES), etc)

3) Top 10 Text Based Games (ie Zork series, Planetfall, Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, etc)

4) Top 10 Bad Guys of Video Games (ie Bowser, Gannon, Dr Robotnik, Sinistar, etc)

5) Top 10 Cool Characters (ie Sonic, Samus, Guybrush Threepwood, etc)

6) Top 10 Best Classic Consoles (ie Atari 2600, NES, Genesis/Mega Drive, SNES, Colecovision, etc)

There's just a few ideas for future top 10's. Thanks for reading.

"Warrior needs food badly."
Funspot72

[GameGavel]

Since there are more than 40 posts in this thread some of these ideas may have already been mentioned before, but that just means they are good ideas for top 10's. ;-) Here are a few ideas I have for top 10 lists:

1) Top 10 Funniest Games (ie Earthworm Jim, Monkey Island series, The Neverhood, etc)

2) Top 10 Worst Games (ie ET, Superman 64, Total Recall (NES), etc)

3) Top 10 Text Based Games (ie Zork series, Planetfall, Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, etc)

4) Top 10 Bad Guys of Video Games (ie Bowser, Gannon, Dr Robotnik, Sinistar, etc)

5) Top 10 Cool Characters (ie Sonic, Samus, Guybrush Threepwood, etc)

6) Top 10 Best Classic Consoles (ie Atari 2600, NES, Genesis/Mega Drive, SNES, Colecovision, etc)

There's just a few ideas for future top 10's. Thanks for reading.

"Warrior needs food badly."
Funspot72

Def some good ones in there. I am sure they will pop up :)

[SubaruBrat]

Top 10 player 2 characters and Top 10 villains really sounds good to me :DKB

[Funspot72]

Just thought of another one:

Top 10 Games Ahead of Their Time--Games like Flashback, Dragon's Lair, Myst, Utopia (Intellivision) (I guess these could be called Top 10 Innovative Games too)

"Coin Detected In Pocket"
Funspot72

[SubaruBrat]

That one is already in the works so you can look forward to it.

[Edwards80]

Top 10 Games responsible for breaking joysticks

[Funspot72]

Another one I thought of:

Top 10 best clones--Games that were made to cash in on the success of the game they are cloning. Examples: K.C. Munchkin (Pac Man), Crazy Kong (Donkey Kong), Space Armada (Space Invaders), etc.

Funspot72

[teknohed]

Another one I thought of:

Top 10 best clones--Games that were made to cash in on the success of the game they are cloning. Examples: K.C. Munchkin (Pac Man), Crazy Kong (Donkey Kong), Space Armada (Space Invaders), etc.

Funspot72

That is a great idea. Hell you could probably break it down. Best clones of Pac Man, best Clones of Space Invaders etc!

[saberman]

Listening to this month’s debate UK Mike says ‘you might as well have MAME in there’. That started me thinking that a top ten emulators would be a great. Number one would be pretty obvious by a mile but the other 9 places could be very interesting.

[limedarren]

Not sure what you would call this suggestion - but here goes.

Might help if you have kids by the way.

I have an 8 year old son and im trying to gently introduce him to the games i used to play when i was a kid and believe me you have to employ some serious stratagy (how can manic miner compete with littlebig planet??)

so anyway i was thinking how about a top 10 list of games that would keep kids interested and would happily play today.

my 10 are..

hypersports - mame
sonic the hedgehog - megadrive
kaboom - 2600
day of the tentacle - pc
outrun - mame
bruce lee - c64
law of the west - c64
skooldaze - zx spectrum
advanced dungeons and dragons - intellivision
cannon fodder - amiga

[F-zero]

I have a few top ten suggestions, some better than others.

The top 10 trackball games, a bit limited but it could be interesting.

The top 10 best underrated/unknown or obscure games

My last 2 are a bit better.

The top 10 game chip based soundtracks (it could just be soundtracks but i like chip based music), actually has this already been covered?

The top 10 Game Company mistakes, Sega 32x anybody?

[BydoEmpire73]

The top 10 Game Company mistakes, Sega 32x anybody?That would be pretty fun!

This thread is getting long, so maybe someone already mentioned it, but Top 10 Best Homebrews for a classic system. The Adventure talk in this month's "Top 2600 Games" made me think about how awesome Adventure 2 is on the 5200.

[limedarren]

hows about....

top 10 point and click games -lucasarts / sierra / scumm etc

top 10 flight sims -

top 10 british games - c'mon theres loads!

top 10 most wanted games - stupid money games on auction sites

top 10 games that your granny even knows about - space invaders , pacman - you know what i mean.

[Gordon Bennett]

I second the top ten point and click adventures and top ten British games. Fantastic ideas, those.

I would, however, amend the first to include text adventures as well. Infocom was a glorious thing. As were Level 9, Delta 4, and Magnetic Scrolls.

[miner2049er]

top 10 point and click games -lucasarts / sierra / scumm etc

Yeah, good one


top 10 flight sims

Hmm, not sure we could all get too passionate about that one, and I won't be playing the ones I don't know for research.


top 10 british games

I thought they all were..............


top 10 most wanted games - stupid money games on auction sites

That would be tricky, ten most expensive is not a debate as such, it's a list. We would have to judge them on the actual games I guess which could mean comparing genres and platforms etc.

We'll make our picks and see how the list looks.

[limedarren]

top 10 box art - thinking of those psygnosys games on the amiga or some of the atari 2600 games as an example.

top 10 worst box art - early c64/zxspectrum - those games made by one bedroom programmer published by some seedy backstreet software company

[BydoEmpire73]

How about this: Top 10 Maze games. It could be Pac Man, it could be Wizard of Wor, it could be Fatal Labyrinth on the Genny (aka Nethack), it could be Deep Labyrinth on the DS. As long as the game plays entirely in a maze it would qualify (so no Bard's Tale or Final Fantasy where you go out to towns). I think there'd be some pretty interesting picks across the history of gaming.

[SubaruBrat]

I am interested...... Might be something to take to the RGRUP lab and experiment with.

[GivenTheOkieDoke]

Am I the only person who liked the N64 controller?

I’d like to see a top 10 of game genres. There are loads of top ten lists of; fighting games, shoot ‘em ups, platform games, sports games, RTS, etc… But which one is the best genre? I’m hoping it is so subjective and arbitrary the debate will make for some great listening :mspac:.

I didn't mind the N64 controller when it came out but now its almost an unplayable system just for that reason. Sony I think has the bes controller bar none.

Top 10 Over-rated Games
Top 10 Under-rated Games
I don't know you could also pin point a specific system with these two categories.

[PH5]

I would like to add my vote for the Top 10 Most Significant Years in Gaming. Someone posted earlier about the years of Arcade Games, but I would like a more all encompassing Top 10 of all of the years for video games. It would be interesting to hear the arguments about why a particular year was great. Could be because of the release of certain titles or consoles, or by volume of games sold, or something that came out as a major breakthrough in games.

[RetroPom]

Hi there,

Not been on for a while.
1. I'm a bit behind - Just finished Ep.14......I'm making a concerted effort to catch up - Promise :)
2. Had issues with PC and also getting onto site - now resolved - Thanks SoCal.

Here are my suggestions - and my seconding of others ideas:
1. Top 10 - 'Prototypes' As per discussion of Arcade Classics cab in 'Anthologies' - Marble Man (Marble Madness 2 anyone.....Pssst.... (whisper) Anyone got a ROM? ;)
2. Top 10 - 'Vector Games' - I second this - They pretty much all look so fresh even today....Star Wars, Tempest, Major Havoc.
3. Top 10 - 'Trackball Games' - Another seconded choice - Lurrrrve Marble Madness, Crystal Castles, et al
4. Top 10 - 'Text Based' - Seconded - Though where would the Level 9 games come - or Magnetic Scrolls? (Maybe best text-based with static graphics?).
5. Top 10 - 'Point N Click' - Seconded too - I need to revisit Scummvm sometime :)

[seanyboyuk]

Id like to see:

Top 10 gaming peripherals/addons
Top 10 sim management games
Top 10 emulators!

[GameGavel]

Id like to see:

Top 10 gaming peripherals/addons
Top 10 sim management games
Top 10 emulators!

Some more good ones here :)

[seanyboyuk]

We could have the worst top 10 peripherals too. The power glove would have to win that hands down!

[Slayer6000]

How about a Top ten of games based on movies???

[Slayer6000]

Or a Top Ten best value for money systems, consoles or home computers.

[miner2049er]

How about a Top ten of games based on movies???

That is on the horizon, as is a Top Ten Movies based on Games.

[Slayer6000]

Good stuff, I think both top tens will have some quality titles in them

[Todd1780]

*** MOVED FROM DUPLICATE THREAD ***

How about the top 10 80's/90's video game movies!
It could be the 10 best or the 10 worst...I know it isnt easy finding a good video game movie in ANY decade.
Anyway....just a suggestion.

[SubaruBrat]

*** EDITED BY UK ***

This is a listener driven show, we always welcome input, the one thing we do remind people of is that we have topics lined up a dozen deep so if you submit an idea and we don't do it the next month that means nothing, we might do it year later.

[Todd1780]

*** EDITED BY UK ***

This is a listener driven show, we always welcome input, the one thing we do remind people of is that we have topics lined up a dozen deep so if you submit an idea and we don't do it the next month that means nothing, we might do it year later.

Oops...sorry about the duplicate thread.
Anyway 1 year from now is fine. (jots that down on his calender)
Seriously....as long as I can help to spur a hotly debated discussion, thats all that really matters :)
Pinball vs. Shuffleboard.....discuss

[Dhalamar]

*** MOVED FROM DUPLICATE THREAD ***

How about the top 10 80's/90's video game movies!
It could be the 10 best or the 10 worst...I know it isnt easy finding a good video game movie in ANY decade.
Anyway....just a suggestion.

Street Fighter needs to be in there. Just because of the asinine decision to cast Jean Claude as "all American Guile" and Raul Julia's final movie and performance as M. Bison. kthx


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhOUyy4wbs

[Todd1780]

Street Fighter needs to be in there. Just because of the asinine decision to cast Jean Claude as "all American Guile" and Raul Julia's final movie and performance as M. Bison. kthx


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhOUyy4wbs

Agreed!
its amazing how much I love truly bad movies at times.
Super mario brothers:the movie, anyone?

[zxspectrum16k]

Top 10 Games responsible for breaking joysticks

This would be a fun one to listen to, I would put SummerGames/Winter Games down for this one.

I was thinking that maybe a top ten for
'Games people rave about but I just don't get, most over rated games' . Not sure if this topic would work as a top ten, but think it would be a fun topic to listen to if it contains games which the other hosts rate.
my list would have ELITE at the top, never ever enjoyed it, bored out of my mind playing it.

[chalksalad]

Hi everyone,
this is my first post so bear with me.

How about some top-10 lists by Generation. If we follow the Wikipedia 7 Generations list it would be like:

1. Pong machines (might want to skip that)
2. Proto 8bit (2600, Intellivision etc)
3. 8bit (NES, C64 etc)
4. 16bit (SNES, Amiga etc)
5. 32/64 bit (PS1, N64 etc)

after that it's definitely not retro (Dreamcast notwithstanding)

This can also mutate to a generational vs fight like, 2600 vs Intellivision, NES vs SMS, Amiga vs Atari ST, ZX vs C64.

Keep up the good work.

[Cynicaster]

Hi everyone,
this is my first post so bear with me.

How about some top-10 lists by Generation. If we follow the Wikipedia 7 Generations list it would be like:

1. Pong machines (might want to skip that)
2. Proto 8bit (2600, Intellivision etc)
3. 8bit (NES, C64 etc)
4. 16bit (SNES, Amiga etc)
5. 32/64 bit (PS1, N64 etc)

after that it's definitely not retro (Dreamcast notwithstanding)

This can also mutate to a generational vs fight like, 2600 vs Intellivision, NES vs SMS, Amiga vs Atari ST, ZX vs C64.

Keep up the good work.

This is actually a really good idea, IMO.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

I'm new here and tried to read through the entire thread, but I might be suggesting things that have been suggested or even cover already, so apologize if that's the case. My picks:

Top ten best ports to a less powerful system - anything from Space Invaders Arcade to the 2600 version or the NES versions of arcade games like Sky Shark, or many Gameboy titles that were ported from the NES. There's many examples of games being just as good on lesser hardware.

I really like the idea of top ten best controllers so I'll second this if it hasn't already been done.

Best new retro games - games like Megaman 9 and 10 on the Wii, Cave Story for PC, VVVVVV for Mac/PC, Battle Kid for the NES, etc

Top ten arcade games that are awesome yet were not commercially successful.

[SubaruBrat]

We talk a fair amount about the Sega Master System doing just that, how they were very functional versions of games that had the power of the Genesis behind them. The limitations of the system were obvious compared to the Genesis but they still made a version that did not disappoint, very balanced in exploring the limits of the system without overreaching its abilities.

[Dhalamar]

I'm new here and tried to read through the entire thread, but I might be suggesting things that have been suggested or even cover already, so apologize if that's the case. My picks:

Top ten best ports to a less powerful system - anything from Space Invaders Arcade to the 2600 version or the NES versions of arcade games like Sky Shark, or many Gameboy titles that were ported from the NES. There's many examples of games being just as good on lesser hardware.

I really like the idea of top ten best controllers so I'll second this if it hasn't already been done.

Best new retro games - games like Megaman 9 and 10 on the Wii, Cave Story for PC, VVVVVV for Mac/PC, Battle Kid for the NES, etc

Top ten arcade games that are awesome yet were not commercially successful.

Doom for SNES. :P

[Satoshi_Matrix]

Are you serious? SNES Doom was a pretty inferior port by all accounts. Even the 32X version is better.

[Dhalamar]

Are you serious? SNES Doom was a pretty inferior port by all accounts. Even the 32X version is better.

Ever heard of sarcasm? :P

And there is one thing that SNES Doom had over a lot (maybe all of them, I generally only play it on the PC) of it's cartridge console relatives (32X, Jaguar, etc etc) ... the music was flat out awesome. That and it IS a port of a game to a less powerful system. A full out 32 bit game going to an aging 16 bit console .... I don't know what the hell they were thinking. But man that music was wicked.

[meu2]

In my opinion the SNES version of Doom came out pretty good all things considered. The music is the obvious highlight of course, but it should also be noted that most of the game play elements and levels made it into the SNES version. The same cannot be said for some of the versions on more powerful systems. It's really the graphical presentation that lets the game down, though that's to be expected given the hardware limitations.

I actually think the top ten ports to a less powerful system is a really good suggestion. However, would that include NES ports of arcade titles like Ninja Gaiden and Bionic Commando that are pretty much entirely different games?

[BydoEmpire73]

I can't think of SNES Doom without thinking Doom Troopers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvq3SZWp6vs


I actually think the top ten ports to a less powerful system is a really good suggestion. However, would that include NES ports of arcade titles like Ninja Gaiden and Bionic Commando that are pretty much entirely different games?Or Halo 2600... that's kind of a gray area, I'm not sure where the line is between "port" and "reinterpretation." All the early arcade->console games were reinterpretations - no code or artwork was actually ported, like, say a modern PS3->X360->PC game port. Yet, they're still ports to me. I think it depends on intent. If they were trying to capture the original then it's a port, regardless how it turns out (i.e. 2600 Pac Man or Donkey Kong). If they made a totally different game with the same character (NES Ninja Gaiden) it's not.

On this topic, there are a couple of 7800 games I like more than the arcade original. Galaga for one (blasphemy, I know). It has a much kinder difficulty ramp-up. I've never been a huge fan of Centipede, but the 7800 version has 2p co-op, which I think makes it a better game.

[Gordon Bennett]

I've had an idea.

What about a top ten of 3D games released prior to 1996? With the rise of the Playstation, 3D cards on the PC and the N64, nearly everything moved to 3D. Before then it was a deliberate choice made by ambitious developers, mostly forcing 3D onto computers and consoles that were far better suited to 2D. I don't know if it is in the spirit of the top ten to assign a cutoff year for games, but I think this would be necessary in order to assure that it remains retro and to properly honour the effort that went into making those classic games.

[Clytor]

Top Ten Vector Games

I would also like to put in my vote for Top 10 vector games.

[BydoEmpire73]

If they were trying to capture the original then it's a port, regardless how it turns out (i.e. 2600 Pac Man or Donkey Kong). If they made a totally different game with the same character (NES Ninja Gaiden) it's not.That's how I look at it, too. While technically not a port in terms of using the same code, it was the common meaning of the word.

[Gordon Bennett]

I've been listening to the December show and thinking about the theme of the distinctive qualities of Japanese games, which had me thinking about British games. British games are often quirky. Those of you who have played games from Automata, Delta 4, Llamasoft and others will know what I mean.

I see from the thread that a Top Ten British Games has been suggested before. Now I want to append that to be a Top Ten Quirky British Games. I think it would be quite entertaining and interesting to hear.

[Brumisator]

Well...it is April, so it'd be hilarious to hear you try to keep a straight face while debating:
* Top 10 reasons modern games are better than old games
* Top 10 reasons pinball deserves to die
* Top 10 best Call of Duty games

Or, semi-seriously, a very meta top 10 best retrogaming roundups
EDIT: actaully, make it a top 10 top 10s...or maybe we listeners could each make our own top 10 top 10 lists, and you could debate the top 10 top 10 top 10!

[Byte Knight]

How about:

• Top 10 platform games
• Top 10 games that pushed the limits of a system
• Top 10 retro games that you still fire up and play today

Forgive me if these have already been done or suggested!

[RetroPom]

Hi there,

Not been on for a while.
1. I'm a bit behind - Just finished Ep.14......I'm making a concerted effort to catch up - Promise :)
2. Had issues with PC and also getting onto site - now resolved - Thanks SoCal.

Here are my suggestions - and my seconding of others ideas:
1. Top 10 - 'Prototypes' As per discussion of Arcade Classics cab in 'Anthologies' - Marble Man (Marble Madness 2 anyone.....Pssst.... (whisper) Anyone got a ROM? ;)
2. Top 10 - 'Vector Games' - I second this - They pretty much all look so fresh even today....Star Wars, Tempest, Major Havoc.
3. Top 10 - 'Trackball Games' - Another seconded choice - Lurrrrve Marble Madness, Crystal Castles, et al
4. Top 10 - 'Text Based' - Seconded - Though where would the Level 9 games come - or Magnetic Scrolls? (Maybe best text-based with static graphics?).
5. Top 10 - 'Point N Click' - Seconded too - I need to revisit Scummvm sometime :)

I thought I'd repost my original 2010 suggestions.
GREAT to see Text Games done :)
ALSO fantastic to see Driving Games on the way :D

But i still think the others above would be goodies too.

Keep up the great work -Andy

[retroshaun]

As I am currently drinking PBR... we need top 10 drinks to consume on a drunken gaming night :)

[Th0rz669]

Top Ten Maxis games

I grew up playing Maxis games like simcity classic, simant, simcopter, streets of simcity, and the sims. Would be awesome to hear you guys talk about em

[jason6669]

Top 10 SNES
Top 10 C64 (no more than one EGG game)
Top 10 Atari 7800
Top 10 GBA
Top 10 Emulators

I like System based ones the best. I always discover new titles I never knew about.

[Jammajup]

Cmon! guys lets get creative-i cannot be arsed to check 10 pages to see if these have already been mentioned (lol) but here goes...

Top 10 sequels better than the original game (or perhaps visa-versa) (arcade? or another specific system)
Top 10 most common seen arcade games (games which were absolutely everywhere back in the day)
Top 10 arcade cabinet side art
Top 10 most unreliable and problematic gaming systems (tech)
Top 10 Overrated game franchise
Top 10 The worst ideas and additions to official arcade cabs and boards (controls,design,suicide batteries,etc)
Top 10 First person adventure (Dungeon Master,Eye OF The Beholder,Captive,etc)
Top 10 Arcade Maze games
Top 10 (best / worst) console and computer game box packaging.

[msx84]

Top 10 8-bit computers
Top 10 MSX & MSX 2 games - not heard much about the system & it's games on show :)
Top 10 Disney games - seeing that they've just bought Lucasfilm:)

[Vipp]

Top 10 Overrated game franchise


I think thiswould be a great top 10, i can imagine the hosts debating this for quite some time.

[saberman]

I think thiswould be a great top 10, i can imagine the hosts debating this for quite some time.

Totally agree. That would be a great top ten.

[Jammajup]

More Top 10 Ideas....

Top 10 Games that take place on/under water (eg. Carrier Command,Atlantis,X-com Terror From The Deep,James Pond,In The Hunt,etc,etc)
Top Game Intro Sequences
Top 10 Game Weapons
Top 10 8-Bit Loading Screens
Top 10 Split Screen Vs Games (eg. Lotus Challenge,Speed King,etc)
Top 10 Games with flying animals,birds or winged mythical creatures as players characters. (Agony,Dragon Spirit,etc)
Top 10 Games set in woodland,Forests or Jungle (eg. Robin Hood,Forbidden Forest,Ikari Warriors,etc)
Top 10 8/16 bit controllers
Top 10 Sega Megadrive/Gen Sega Logo start up scenes (eg. Earthworm Jim.Cool Spot,etc)
Top 10 Unusual MD/Gen games
Top 10 C64 Shmups
Top 10 retro Video gaming myths that you have ever heard -growing up back in the day or recently. (eg. leaving the rubber keyed ZX near a fire would melt the keys,the C64 only uses 32/64K on its games and the ZX used 42/48K,non existent secret rooms in video games,etc)
Top 10 Over valued games and systems in auctions.
Top 10 80`s Tabletop or LCD games. (eg. Astro Wars,Galaxy Invader 1000,etc)
Top 10 games that have insects as players or baddies (Bio Hazard Battle,Centipede,etc)
Top 10 NES arcade Ports
Top 10 Wrestling Games
Top 10 Motorcycle games
Top 10 Panasonic 3DO games
Top 10 Video games based on Board Games (eg. Monopoly,Chess games,etc)
Top 10 Top Film / Character / genre crossovers (eg. Robocop Vs Terminator,Alien Vs Predator,SNK Vs Capcom,etc)
Top 10 Games Set in Japan (eg. Shenmue,Shinobi,etc)
Top 10 Arcade,Computer and Console mods
Top 10 Hidden or Sub Games within in a main game,
Top 10 Games which involve climbing or advancing to a higher point (eg. Crazy Climber,Nebulus,etc)
Top 10 Personnel Video Game disappointments (games released after hype that were mostly seen by the video gaming public as trash)
Top 10 Saturn 2D games
Top 10 Games designed or programmed by Women (eg Centipede,Road Blasters,The Hobbit)
Top 10 Konami Arcade Games
Top 10 Retro and Video gaming amazing / interesting FACTS (eg Pacman design from Pizza,Berzerk is the first arcade game recorded to have someone die while playing,etc)

[miner2049er]

WOW! A Few to go at there, some of which we have already in the works, but thanks a lot.

Keep your ears peeled.

[BydoEmpire73]

I think this would be a great top 10, i can imagine the hosts debating this for quite some time.Nah, everyone agrees Halo is #1! :: poke ::

[Gordon Bennett]

I'll second that top ten 3DO suggestion. Very underrated console with many unique titles, IMO.

[ebrake]

How about a top ten on sit down/special game cabinets? Where the cabinet helped to enhance the experience of the game.
My all time fave would be the sit down cab version of Afterburner. You never saw a man with a dumber grin on his face when Im playing that game.
Another good choice would be Operation Wolf. I remember thinking how cool it was that the gun recoiled when fired.

[Jammajup]

Interesting one :) there are lots of guys out there who own hydraulic cabs and such so there is a lot of interest,although i personally have felt little benefit from looking a prat on a hydraulic moving machine and when Space Harrier,Afterburner,Hang-on and Outrun appeared that pretty much was the beginning of the end for arcades in my opinion because of the price to purchase and maintain them. Star Rider (Midway-disc) was the best game that i sat on as it was non-moving and the best u/r would be Battlezone with the viewer.

[Nurmix]

Personally, I want to hear a top 10 "Top 10's"...

[saberman]

Personally, I want to hear a top 10 "Top 10's"...

I was thinking along similar lines with top 10 genres which I suggested years ago. In the latest top 10 UK Mike says one of the games isn't from a genres he likes. It'd be interesting to hear what genres the guys come up with and do like. I'm guessing racing simulators would be top of UK Mike's list.

[Green Bert]

I'd like to hear a Top 10 Video Game Magazines. I must have spent as much time reading Video/Computer Games magazines as playing the games that featured in them (I still read them today).
For the record, my top 4 would be;
1. Zzap!64
2. Arcade Magazine
3. Official Playstation Monthly (UK)
4. Official Dreamcast Magazine (UK)

[Vipp]

I was thinking that a top 10 most memorable level/stage in any retro game. It came to me when i was re playing Sonic 2 on my Megadrive and i thought just how amazed i was to see the Chemecal Plant and how cool it was to play that level. it is so fast and well animated, the enemy hardly stop you from shooting through the levels. so for me that would be one hell of a memorable level for overall gameplay and style.

[Aidy]

I remember when I first played Sonic2 and totally agree, that level was mental the first time you saw. It back in the day.

Also remember being blown away by the title screen on the first one and seeing the level imagery scrolling along behind sonic as he popped out of the centre.

[Jon Osorio]

Top 10 hardest games that make you want to break something.

[Nurmix]

Top 10 hardest games that make you want to break something.

Oh that would be a pretty long list... especially if we're talking arcade games...

[Jon Osorio]

Oh that would be a pretty long list... especially if we're talking arcade games...

It would become a list of biggest BS moments in games.

[Aidy]

Top Ten Educational games including stuff like BJ Bear Teaches Math, ADI English and Grandmas Garden etc...

[drich255]

Top 10 lesser known puzzle games. My vote would be for (7Up) Spot on the NES.

[Vipp]

Top 10 lesser known puzzle games. My vote would be for (7Up) Spot on the NES.

My vote would go on two games i vividly remember watching during my childhood on the Amiga 1200 they are

(Commador Amiga)

Spherical - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8l7ylpN5Ro
A fantastic puzzle game in which you are a wizard who has to release a ball into the IN box on every level. you can play this for years it really seems timeless, in fact i would be interested to know if UK Mike has played this title.


(Commador Amiga)

Mean Arenas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBYKR_xFODU

This puzzle game should be on XBLA and PSN for sure, its a brilliant puzzle game with two funny hosts that introduce the enemies prior you being dropped into the arena. also you will note the amazing soundtrack that many amiga games had this is no exception.

[Nurmix]

More Top 10 Ideas....

Top 10 Games...etc...

Damn! Now there's a man with a lot of good ideas! Makes the rest of us look like lazy slackers.. Well, UK anyway..

[drich255]

Good selections Vipp. I hadn't heard of Spherical or Mean Arenas.

Another nomination to the "Top 10 Lesser Known Puzzle Games" list would be Kwirk (Game Boy) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFAe379Oi08.

It is one of those games where you have to reach a goal by pushing obstacles that are in your way. Some blocks can fill holes in the ground. Others can act as revolving doors. Since you can only push items and not pull them back, you can make mistakes that will force you to restart the level.

Not sure if this was the first puzzle game of this style or if this is a clone of another game, but it is the first one I remember seeing. And maybe it is well known, just not talked about much.

[Nurmix]

How about top 10 ugliest arcade cabs?

[itsreallykevin]

Top 10 console add-ons... Like the 32x, or NES Powerglove or the Atari wireless joysticks... Was this one done already?

[miner2049er]

We havent done it yet and its one we have in the planning phase.

[Nurmix]

Top 10 console add-ons... Like the 32x, or NES Powerglove or the Atari wireless joysticks... Was this one done already?

I second that. The Odyssey 2 "Voice". The Intellivision Intellivioice, "System Changer", and Play Cable adapter. The Colecovision 2600 adapter, Roller Controller, driving module... ...or perhaps the top 10 retro console expansion modules / ad-ons that never quite saw the light of day, or had extremely limited release, like the Colecovision "Super Game Module", the 2600 "Graduate" computer adapter, the original Intellivision Keyboard Component, etc.

I can't remember if you guys already did something like this though.. Maybe I'm thinking of the top 10 CGE Museum pieces.

[itsreallykevin]

There's always the top 10 mini-games or bonus levels within a game... Remember the memory game in SMB 3 for extra items? Or the ninja star throw segment in Shinobi? Or the wood breaking bonus in the Street Fighter series? What were the best (and worse) bonus levels/minigames you remember?

[Compute]

Top 10 versions of Madden football. There must be at least 40 versions between all of the years and platforms.

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